I remember I had felt very weak and unable to walk. I had fallen several times and so I had been put onto the front room sofa outside of my parent's bedroom to sleep. I felt very hot and tried to wake up but couldn't. I saw myself as a wispy cloud the size of my body, rising from my physical self. I began to float upwards towards the ceiling of my living room. As I came to the top of the room, I heard a voice behind me. Standing in my living room was a strange looking man, an Indian master-type gentleman with a turban on. He was saying, 'No, Debbi it is not your time to go. You must stay here.' I looked down on the sofa and saw me on the sofa, lifeless in appearance. I found myself having a pulled-back-into-my-body type sensation. He said, 'I am your angel. My name is Babba Ji. I have always been with you and will always be with you. I will get you some help. Look at the elephants marching around the room. Just watch them while I get you help.' I looked and marching around the ceiling were elephants. They were cartoon elephants like the ones on parade in the movie 'Dumbo'. I remember the first time I saw the Disney cartoon Dumbo I thought that's what I saw when I saw the angel. I remember my mother shortly afterward, not sure how long, came out and began screaming to my father to come and take me to the hospital. I remember my father becoming upset, he scooped up my body, and I blacked out again. Later, as a 35 year old, I had been visiting a friend in California and was invited to go to a talk from an 'Indian Guru Master.' When I arrived at the woman's house I was to ride with, I saw a picture of my angel. I couldn't believe it and asked her who was it? When did he live? She said she had been very sick with scarlet fever. He came to her and had dancing elephants for her to watch going around the room. She said his name was Babba Ji. I said this is unbelievable because that is what had happened to me. She said the man we are going to see tonight is Babba Ji's student's student. He had lived in 1880 and as a gift; she gave me the picture of him that I have framed in my home. I don't remember anything before this event. I know I have heard voices all my life that steer me in the right direction. The voices ask me to help people that need help, have saved people's lives, and helped me with daily life problems. I remember thinking as a child that I have parents but God was my true parent. I have always been intuitive, many times hearing people's thoughts and smelling spirits of family members. I could hear the voice of God or angels and this has created many adventures. These adventures are not normal for this earth as a result in my personal life and work environment as a nurse. I call them 'God jobs' and hear the voice at times that directs me how to help my patients and others.
Date NDE Occurred: 1958
At the time of your experience, was there an associated life-threatening event? Uncertain Illness. Other I am unsure, as I was a child. I had a very high fever and had been diagnosed with Rheumatic Fever when I had gotten to the hospital.
How do you consider the content of your experience? Entirely pleasant
The experience included: Out of body experience
Did you feel separated from your body? No
I clearly left my body and existed outside it
How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal everyday consciousness and alertness? More consciousness and alertness than normal The colors of the elephants were so vivid and they were so animated I remember being mesmerized by them.
At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness? During the vision of my angel.
Were your thoughts speeded up? No
Did time seem to speed up or slow down? Everything seemed to be happening at once; or time stopped or lost all meaning
Were your senses more vivid than usual? More vivid than usual
Please compare your vision during the experience to your everyday vision that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience. I was very ill and unable to move or get up immediately prior to this. I remember trying to get up and communicate but couldn't.
Please compare your hearing during the experience to your everyday hearing that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience. I did not sense or remember any hearing.
Did you seem to be aware of things going on elsewhere? No
Did you pass into or through a tunnel? No
The experience included: Presence of deceased persons
Did you see any beings in your experience? I actually saw them
Did you encounter or become aware of any deceased (or alive) beings? Yes See above narrative.
Did you see, or feel surrounded by, a brilliant light? A light clearly of mystical or other-worldly origin
Did you see an unearthly light? Yes It was around the man in the room. A light clearly of mystical or other-worldly origin.
Did you seem to enter some other, unearthly world? A clearly mystical or unearthly realm
The experience included: Strong emotional tone
What emotions did you feel during the experience? I felt as though I had been groggy initially then happy and feeling very loved and seeing a light around Babba Ji.
Did you have a feeling of peace or pleasantness? Incredible peace or pleasantness
Did you have a feeling of joy? Happiness
Did you feel a sense of harmony or unity with the universe? I felt united or one with the world
Did you suddenly seem to understand everything? No
Did scenes from your past come back to you? No
Did scenes from the future come to you? No
Did you come to a border or point of no return? No Babba Ji said I needed to return that it was not my time to leave and when he spoke I was sucked back into my body.
God, Spiritual and Religion:
What importance did you place on your religious/spiritual life prior to your experience? Unknown
What was your religion prior to your experience? Christian- Protestant
Have your religious practices changed since your experience? Uncertain See above.
What importance do you place on your religious/spiritual life after your experience? Greatly important to me
What is your religion now? Other faiths- New age I attend Unity Church of Christianity
Did your experience include features consistent with your earthly beliefs? Content that was entirely not consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience
Did you have a change in your values and beliefs because of your experience? Yes I have a lot of faith and always have, I have felt most at home in churches and singing religious songs and reading bible stories gave me much joy as a child.
I knew that there was something out there that can just appear and begin speaking to me and look after me; that I am not alone.
Did you seem to encounter a mystical being or presence, or hear an unidentifiable voice? I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin He was small in stature but having a beautiful feeling about him. It was a feeling of peace. His smile was a sweet as Santa's to me. I felt as if yes I do know him. My friend and felt a kinship to him. Although the turban seemed a little strange, I believed him and felt he loved me as my father loved me. He did appear as a real person but with those characterizations listed.
Did you see deceased or religious spirits? I actually saw them
Did you encounter or become aware of any beings who previously lived on earth who are described by name in religions (for example: Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc.)? Yes Babba Ji from India. I think he was an Indian Master and teacher in his incarnation.
During your experience, did you gain information about premortal existence? Uncertain I was a five year old at the time and so I do not actually know the answer to that.
During your experience, did you gain information about universal connection or oneness? Yes I felt that connection via the angel,guide whatever you would call him.
Did you believe in the existence of God prior to your experience? Unknown
During your experience, did you gain information about the existence of God? No
Do you believe in the existence of God after your experience? God definitely exists
Concerning our Earthly lives other than Religion:
During your experience, did you gain special knowledge or information about your purpose? No
Did you believe that our earthly lives are meaningful and significant prior to your experience? Unknown
During your experience, did you gain information about the meaning of life? No
Did you believe in an afterlife prior to your experience? Unknown
Do you believe in an afterlife after your experience? Unknown No
Did you fear death prior to your experience? Unknown
Do you fear death after your experience? I slightly fear death
Were you fearful living your life prior to your experience? Unknown
Were you fearful living your life after your experience? Slightly fearful in living my earthly life
Did you believe that our earthly lives are meaningful and significant after your experience? Are meaningful and significant
Did you gain information about how to live our lives? No
During your experience, did you gain information about life's difficulties, challenges and hardships? No
Were you compassionate prior to your experience? Unknown
During your experience, did you gain information about love? No
Were you compassionate after your experience? Moderately compassionate toward others
What life changes occurred in your life after your experience? Large changes in my life. Large changes in my life.
Have your relationships changed specifically because of your experience? No My husband accepts me and loves me even though strange things sometimes happen to me.
After the NDE:
Was the experience difficult to express in words? Yes
How accurately do you remember the experience in comparison to other life events that occurred around the time of the experience? I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience
Do you have any psychic, non-ordinary or other special gifts after your experience that you did not have before the experience? Yes I have always had that my whole life. I do not have memory prior to this experience.
Have you ever shared this experience with others? Yes My sister, best friend and husband mainly.
Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience? No
What did you believe about the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened? Experience was definitely real
What do you believe about the reality of your experience now? Experience was definitely real When I had met the girl in California who described the same thing that sealed it for me. I knew I was not hallucinating whenever I have seen 'him'.
At any time in your life, has anything ever reproduced any part of the experience? No
Is there anything else that you would like to add about your experience? The most recent India teacher in Babba Ji's lineage appeared to me once as a light being and asked me to come to see him and to be ready because he will be seeing me soon. He was also very loving and kind feeling. Shortly after, a man I have never seen came to see me at my church and he said during his meditation he was told to come and see me and invite me to go with him to a retreat in upstate New York. I did and when I met him it was the vision of the man I had seen in my bedroom the night I had the experience. I spent about a week at a retreat with him and his energy was incredible. I almost fell when I saw him because of the connection and I feel it was because of Babba Ji that he was sent to me.
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