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Jule L's NDE |
Experience description:
2nd experience was traumatic. The early stages strangely familiar. grey void, sensation of movement, no human form, very alone. Then the light, the drawing to it faster and faster. Not prepared for entry. The terrible rejection and falling away. Total loss of spirit. Scared myself out of the drug during the surgery. Dentists noted my reaction. Started an intense curiosity of religion, philosophy, metaphysics, e.s.p., etc.
3rd experience, was familiar now with the grey void, the alone feeling, no human form. Knew the light and the tunnel where next. Still could not enter. As I was drawn closer and closer, could not control my thoughts on just what the light was. There was doubt, fear, the terrible falling away again. Again, scared myself out of the drug during the surgery. Apparently scared the dentists as they refused to accept me as a patient after that. My mother took me to a different dentist. He was unaware of my reaction. I myself was unsure what was happening as at that time, was no knowledge of NDE's felt somewhat prepared this last time. Everything was expected, and happened exactly the same.
The grey void, the light, the tunnel. I failed again. This time the light reappeared. With much humility, and a great feeling of being honored just to be in its presence, I recognized it as god. Was taken immediately in. This is where the words are hard to come by in the description of being one with the light. It's as though I can describe in human terms that which happens before, but words fail in the description of oneness. I can remember the feeling of hysterical laughter, not physical, but the pure energy that would make one feel that good, and repeating over and over," is this what it's all about". It was wonderful.
Then, this sonar sound. Distracting. just a bleep, but slowing. Now to a warble, then as clear as can be. It was the dentist screaming at me to open my eyes. He was frantic. Very scared. Nurse was frantically pulling the needle out of my arm. He was violently shaking me by the shoulders. Pleading. My mother was in the waiting room with others. They could hear this man yelling. I haven't been under anesthesia since.
I've spent many
hours in the fields sorting out these events. It took many years. I now feel
that I understand how it works. I've come to the conclusion that its so simple
as not to be understood by most. We simply 'judge ourselves' in the ability to
trust totally in that light. That it is good. Without that trust, or faith, the
negative NDE I've had a few. With this knowledge I am convinced that we
are given many chances. Not just one as it seems with the falling away. That is
my knowledge of the negative NDE. God is all loving, and forgiving. My
knowledge of the positive NDE is as simple. I now feel I can see that light in
everyone that I meet. The golden rule. Treat others as you wish to be treated. I
will add that there where no religious icons or beings. Just me and the light.
My goal in life is to return there.
Was the
kind of experience difficult to express in words?
Yes previous to the light experience, it took years to sort out. Took longer
to describe the experience of light itself as the words where hard to come by in
describing it
At the
time of this experience, was there an associated life threatening event?
Yes Stopped breathing during surgery
At what
time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and
alertness?
high level of alertness and awareness as soon as I entered the grey void
How did
your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare
to your normal every day consciousness and alertness?
More consciousness and alertness than normal
If your
highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience was different
from your normal every day consciousness and alertness, please explain:
Being one with that light is as high of a consciousness that I can attain. Not
comparable to everyday life.
Did your
vision differ in any way from your normal, everyday vision (in any aspect, such
as clarity, field of vision, colors, brightness, depth perception degree of
solidness/transparency of objects, etc.)?
Yes Wasn't viewing through human eyes. Was very aware of no human form. In
effect, no way to hide your thoughts.
Did your
hearing differ in any way from your normal, everyday hearing (in any aspect,
such as clarity, ability to recognize source of sound, pitch, loudness, etc.)?
Yes Very alien sounds. Nothing that could be described
Did you
experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?
Yes
What
emotions did you feel during the experience?
At first, loneliness. No one to answer questions such as where am I?.
Why am I here. Then curiosity when the light appears. As I'm speeding toward the
light, an unsure, uneasy feeling, Then doubt, then the falling away and torment.
Very scary stuff. The biblical wailing and gnashing of teeth. But the oneness
with light. Ecstasy
Did you
pass into or through a tunnel or enclosure?
Yes The
grey void does not last long. When the light appears, I am immediately drawn to
it faster and faster. Must make a decision then on what that light is. It is
much like moving through a tunnel, the light growing larger and larger. Your not
given a lot of time to decide.
Did you
see a light?
Yes It was as though I was in a deep well, looking up to see just what that
light is and what was 'out there'.
Did you
meet or see any other beings?
No It's of my feeling that any human decryptions such as beings or
religious icons, means that your still in the physical world. Seems to be an
unpopular belief.
Did you
experience a review of past events in your life?
Yes Not so much as a picture review, but condensed as a thought of is the
light good or bad. I learned of absolute and total love. An absolute accepting
of the end of my human life, therefore, no more fear of death. Makes life so
much more enjoyable.
Did you
observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that
could be verified later?
No Another unpopular theory of mine. Connecting a true NDE to future
events, faith healing, etc. is transitory to the event. The message is all
that's important.
Did you
see or visit any beautiful or otherwise distinctive locations, levels or
dimensions?
No The light can only be described as the ultimate location to be.
Did you
have any sense of altered space or time?
Yes Time seemed not to matter
Did you
have a sense of knowing special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?
Yes Everyone has the capacity of love. God is on the inside. Not 'out
there' anywhere.
Did you
reach a boundary or limiting physical structure?
Yes To enter that light is crossing the boundary of life, and afterlife. I
did not want to come back. I was drawn back by a frantic, hysterical dentist
yelling and shaking me. He brought me from a long way back.
Did you
become aware of future events?
Yes
Nothing of importance. Little things. Don't spend much time on the
substance of it.
Did you
have any psychic, paranormal or other special gifts following the experience you
did not have prior to the experience?
Uncertain Was operated on at 18 months old for hernia. May have been my
first NDE. That was 1955. At 10 yrs old, had an traumatic event of a previous
life.
Have
you shared this experience with others?
Yes After a few years shared with certain friends. As I grew to understand,
shared more openly. Some showed interest, others not
Did you
have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience?
No
How did
you view the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it
happened:
Experience was definitely real Since there where a number of experiences, I
viewed each differently as they occurred.
Were
there one or several parts of the experience especially meaningful or
significant to you?
The whole
experience is significant to me.
How do
you currently view the reality of your experience:
Experience was definitely real They where all exactly the same, each
time more revealing, more progressive. It was years before I read Moody's first
books, and realized the similarities.
Have your
relationships changed specifically as a result of your experience?
Yes
My wife is very
aware of the changes. we where just dating when they happened. The changes where
very evident. Marriage seems to be difficult at times directly related to my
experiences.
Have
your religious beliefs/practices changed specifically as a result of your
experience?
Yes
Was raised
catholic. Don't belong to any religion now by choice.
Following the
experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or
substances which reproduced any part of the experience?
Yes Always
had problems with injections. Passed out, convulsed etc. Niece did college paper
on my condition as she is a dentist. Genetic disorder. She won't touch me. lol.
Loss of blood pressure and unconsciousness seems to be a feeling just short of
the grayish void. One instance resulted in the previous life event.
Is there
anything else you would like to add concerning the experience?
I've contacted
NDERF some years ago. I guess this question seems to press at me. Theoretically
speaking, if one knew what was important to know about dying, and what happens
after, what would one do with that knowledge?. Also, just before I was accepted
into that light, I remember asking first, after all the failures," what is it
that I can do to be with you?"."How can I serve you?. It's that serving part
that's always puzzled me. I now feel that if I could help just one person who is
struggling with the negative experience, and reassure them that all is well,
that you get another chance. That would be my service. I do remember falling 20
ft from a grain bin once. This did not result in an NDE. But I do remember
thinking just before I regained consciousness, what a shame it would be to take
this knowledge with me. Wasn't thinking about myself, or family, but about this
knowledge. I think that was a 'wakeup call'.
Did the
questions asked and information you provided so far accurately and
comprehensively describe your experience?
Yes Just
does
Are there any other
questions we could ask to help you communicate your experience?
None that I can think of.