Deborah Le's NDE

Experience description: 

I was pretty interested in watching them push on me, and glad I couldn't feel the pain any more.  I looked over and saw a boy I had known in Junior High, Greg, and said "Hi Greg, what are you doing here?"  (Bear in mind, I didn't really look over, and I didn't really "say" anything, but that's the only way I know to describe the communication).  I remember thinking, saying? what a silly thing to say, and he saying it's ok.  I could see he had the form I remembered him and I could pull energy around me to form my earthly shape, and it would start to dissipate, and I would try and pull it around me again, but when it would start to dissipate I knew I didn't need to pull the energy around me, and I would try not to.  I think one of the reason Greg was there was so I would know I was dead, as he was the only person I knew at the time who had died.  I remember thinking when I first got there, before I noticed Greg, a great feeling of relief and overwhelming love, and understanding "everything".  I thought "Oh yeah, I remember now, it's sooo simple.  I will never forget again." but of course, I did forget "everything". 

Behind me (not really behind but I can't describe it any other way) were lots of people in a beautiful garden-park  maybe 60 people, and they were all excited to see me, and I was sooo excited to see them, almost jumping up and down type of excitement.  I knew I was in my "real" home, and I knew that my life on earth? was important, but it wasn't the most important part of my life.  (I remember thinking of it as I think of high school now, or maybe junior high, important and something you need to do but not THE most important part of total life). 

 I also saw, and I guess the only way to describe it is a life review, but it was in a flash only momentary, but it about covered it.  there were things I was embarrassed about, and felt like I had to forgive myself for these acts.  Then I could go be with my family, (I knew these people were family) and I knew then that some of the people I knew in this lifetime as friends were also part of my greater real family.  Greg then said, "You know you have to decide real soon" and I said "I know, I think I want to stay, It's so nice here."  And he said, "don't you want to be with your son?"  I said, "he isn't staying/" Greg said, "No he's is going back"  and I said, "I am going back then"  I didn't want to though.  Then Greg left and I went back to my body.  I have often wondered if Greg is my son.

NEW QUESTIONNAIRE

Was the kind of experience difficult to express in words? Yes,    there were feelings i don't think I have ever had before, deep emotional feelings.  And there was a sense of homecoming that I still can't explain, and I thought 'oh i remember now, i won't ever forget again", but I did.

At the time of this experience, was there an associated life threatening event?          No

At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness?     After I 'remembered" that I didn't have to keep pulling the energy together to make my 'body" form together.  I could see "behind" me.

How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal every day consciousness and alertness?    More consciousness and alertness than normal

If your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience was different from your normal every day consciousness and alertness, please explain:            i could remember my earth life, but also remember my "other" life, and other people.

Did your vision differ in any way from your normal, everyday vision (in any aspect, such as clarity, field of vision, colors, brightness, depth perception degree of solidness/transparency of objects, etc.)?  Yes     I could see everything, the things between the two worlds, I guess, but mainly i was aware.

Did your hearing differ in any way from your normal, everyday hearing (in any aspect, such as clarity, ability to recognize source of sound, pitch, loudness, etc.)?
            Uncertain      I don't remember hearing actually-only telepathic communication.

Did you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?     Yes

What emotions did you feel during the experience?            Relief, I think, and happiness, and a great sense of homecoming.

Did you pass into or through a tunnel or enclosure?          Uncertain      I was first aware of being 'on" the ceiling of the hospital room and then 'behind" me I "saw" where I could go on to if I wanted to.

Did you see a light?           Uncertain      I could only see the difference from the plane of the hospital room, and the other place behind me that was much more colorful and bright and lots of people whom I don't remember knowing, but I knew them then, and was sooo happy to see them 'again'.

Did you meet or see any other beings?           Yes     On the ceiling of the hospital room when I got there, was a friend of mine from the 7th grade who had died of cancer then.  I didn't feel surprised to see him.  I was a little embarrassed because I was trying not to be confused, but it seemed perfectly normal that he be there.  I also saw maybe 20-25 people in the "other" plane, "behind" me, and they were very excited to see me, and I them.  I was so happy, and I wanted to be with them very much.  I knew they were 'family" but now I don't know who they were.

Did you experience a review of past events in your life?    Uncertain      I don't remember an actual review, but I do remember a sense of 'embarrassment" not over one particular past incident, but over all of them at one time.  I knew all of the mistakes at one time.  I can't explain it, but I also knew I only had to forgive myself and they would be forgiven.  Or forgotten, or something.  I just had to face them or admit them or something like that.

Did you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later?          Uncertain      I didn't receive any fortune telling, or anything like that.  I just remember "knowing' like everything and having a great sense of understanding, and the most important thing (or at least I thought it was the most important) was 'oh yeah, i remember now, it's soooo simple.  we make it so complicated!"  I also remember thinking about religion, and thinking to myself, well no one has it right, but no one is really wrong either.  And how simple the whole explanation of 'everything" is.  I promised I would never forget, but I have.

Did you see or visit any beautiful or otherwise distinctive locations, levels or dimensions?           Yes            In question 16, the different planes, and being aware of both.

Did you have any sense of altered space or time?   Yes
            Yes, there seemed to be no time, everything was on a continuum, I guess.

Did you have a sense of knowing special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?     Uncertain            I don't think the knowledge was 'special" as far as spreading it around, but I felt a kind of remembering the why and how of everything that i had forgotten while in this life.

Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure? Yes     I tried at first to keep the 'energy' pulled around me that would form the physical me, but i knew i didn't really need it, even so, at first i kept pulling the energy together.  i knew if i went to the 'plane' behind me that i couldn't go back to my life.  i didn't care though, i wanted to stay, but i knew my obligation or tenure or something wasn't finished yet.

Did you become aware of future events?       No

Did you have any psychic, paranormal or other special gifts following the experience you did not have prior to the experience?     Uncertain      I didn't really think so t the time or even later, but I do seem to be able to tell what people are thinking and why they do things they do.  maybe more empathy, i am not sure.

Have you shared this experience with others?         Yes     I told only a girlfriend who I knew wouldn't question me or think I am crazy.  it was probably almost 10 years later until I told my sister, after another event prompted me to think she might believe me, and then only a few people whom I felt "needed" to hear it.

Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience?    Uncertain            I had read "Bridie Murphy" when I was in high school.  That was my only previous experience, and it didn't affect me at all, but maybe made me know it was not a dream maybe.

Were there one or several parts of the experience especially meaningful or significant to you?            The joy of seeing my "family" and the sense of relief  and the sense of knowledge of 'everything'  I only remember the sense of the knowledge now, not the actual knowledge.

How did you view the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened:            Experience was definitely real
            I knew it was real because I had 'died" on the childbirth table.  the dr. and nurse were saying that they lost the baby's heart beat and then they lost the mothers heartbeat, then i was on the ceiling.  i could see the nurse trying to push the baby out of me, and then i quit paying attention,  i could have watched the whole time, but more and more i became less interested in the event.  until i knew it was time to choose, and iwillingly, but not without regrets went back.

How do you currently view the reality of your experience:            Experience was definitely real
            I know it was real, and I view it as another experience I have had in this life.  It is one of the bigger experiences like my wedding or the births of my 4 kids, a big one like that, but just an event,

Have your relationships changed specifically as a result of your experience?           Yes
            I think of people I feel connected to in life are connected forever.  not just yuour family, but i feel that the life we choose here, is with different family member from the bigger family we have.  i can't explain it, but i think my family is my family and it is really much bigger family and while we don't know them as family while we are here, when we are there we remember them and maybe choose to spend some time on earth with them another time.  i don't know how to explain it.

Have your religious beliefs/practices changed specifically as a result of your experience?            Yes            my daughter says i am part jewish part buddhist and part christian.  i think she may be right.

Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?         No

Did the questions asked and information you provided so far accurately and comprehensively describe your experience?         Yes     I think that a lot could be understood if I were able to accurately explain the feelings and events during NDE but there is just no vocabulary for some of it.

OLD QUESTIONNAIRE

Any associated medications or substances with the potential to affect the experience?     No, I was having "natural" childbirth-no medication of any kind

Was the kind of experience difficult to express in words? Yes

for example, I say "He said" or "I said" and no one says anything, but you just know what is being said, (or thought, I guess)

and I say I saw my friend Greg, and I did see his body, and mine too, but it was just a great amount of energy that I could hold together in form, but it wasn't necessary to do it, it was just for me to recognize until I "remembered". See? Unexplainable.  I just knew.

At the time of this experience, was there an associated life threatening event?          Yes

In the last stages of childbirth, the placenta separated from the uterus, and Dr. was called in.  I could hear the nurse say "we are losing the baby's heartbeat" over and over, then she said "we lost the baby's heartbeat.  We are losing the mother's heartbeat" then I was at the ceiling looking down at them pushing on my stomach.

What was your level of consciousness and alertness during the experience?           very alert and very conscious

            Was the experience dream like in any way?   not very real, more real than this life

Did you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?     Yes

I could see my body on the delivery table.  I didn't really have a body, but I could pull "energy" together and make a form if I wanted to, but it was not necessary

Did you hear any unusual sounds or noises?           I guess you could describe it as a sound, but it would only be for lack of better words, but it was a feeling of sound that caused complete joy

Did you pass into or through a tunnel or enclosure?          No

Did you see a light?           Uncertain

I didn't travel that far, but I could feel the presence of it, Oh I just can't explain.

Did you meet or see any other beings?           Yes, in answer 4

Did you experience a review of past events in your life?    Uncertain, in answer 4

Did you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later?          Yes

nurse saying we lost the mother, and watching them push on my stomach and could hear the dr. and nurses giving instructions to each other. I told dr. later that I was sorry to be such a problem and he said they were glad I made it.

Did you see or visit any beautiful or otherwise distinctive locations, levels or dimensions?           Yes

ans. 4 but levels is a good way to describe it. I said look over and behind but i think on another level would be a better way to describe it

Did you have any sense of altered space or time?   Yes, I felt there was no time, that all was the same time

Did you have a sense of knowing, special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?    Yes, ans. 4       I knew then, but not now, and I remember what it felt like to know

Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure? No

Did you become aware of future events?       Uncertain, I knew "everything" then but not now

Were you involved in or aware of a decision regarding your return to the body?       Yes

ans. 4

Did you have any psychic, paranormal or other special gifts following the experience that you did not have prior to the experience?         Uncertain

just feel that I have empathy with each person, and can feel why they act the way they do.

Did you have any changes of attitudes or beliefs following the experience?   Yes

I am not afraid to die, but I am happy to be here, too.  I enjoy knowing my children and my grandchild and I love them soooo much.  I think I have made my children not afraid to die.  If you are not afraid to die, you can have a much better life.

How has the experience affected your relationships? Daily life? Religious practices? Career choices?       I am grateful for all relationships, and I enjoy all interactions with family and all humans.  (animals too)

I was not a very religious person, and still don't practice any particular religion, but I know none of them are really right, but none really wrong either, just have my own knowledge and am very spiritual now.

Has your life changed specifically as a result of your experience?         Uncertain

I'm not sure if my life changed, I was a young married woman, who was just having her first kid.  I had 3 more kids and my life changed so much being a mother.  I know my outlook on life changed dramatically.

Have you shared this experience with others?         Yes

I did not tell anyone except a girlfriend who I knew would believe me.  When I started to tell someone, they would think I was a freak.  After my 3rd son was 3 and had his own nde, and told me about it (at age 3) did I start telling people and I didn't really care then if they thought I was a freak, because I knew.  Some people tell me it gives them the chills and some people just give me a funny look and stay away!

What emotions did you experience following your experience?  I was sad to leave, but I had a baby, so I was soon elated again.

What was the best and worst part of your experience?      The feeling of joy and love. No bad part.

Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?         No

Did the questions asked and information you provided accurately and comprehensively describe your experience?               Yes