John R NDEs

EXPERIENCE DESCRIPTION:

I attempted suicide when I was 24 years old. on the way to the hospital I died in the back of the ambulance. I was kept going by artificial respiration. the doctor told me I was dead for about 3 minutes. that experience I kept to myself for almost 30 years. while dead I spoke to someone who told me to go back, that it was not my time. I was told to be patient because there was a need for me. I was also told not to try suicide again because I would not be successful. so I waited from age 24 to age 52 and nothing.

“I was very interested in a NDE on your archives page(John R NDE 5231) No. 2735. He mentions wondering if refusing life saving surgery is considered the same as suicide in the next life as he was told not to attempt suicide during a NDE and he says he decides to ask this question during life saving surgery.  What was the answer he received? 

The answer is kind of murky. I never really asked if refusing live saving surgery was good or bad while on the other side, but you must understand that the other side is very different from this thing we call reality and besides, we had all types of far more important things to talk about. When your soul or what ever you want to call it is on the other side, things like suicide and money worries etc. are so trivial as to be not thought about. They are concerns of this world. I can also say there is no short cut from this side to the other. We are each here for a specific reason and to learn specific things. If that  learning process called life is interrupted by something like murder, which is the random act of another, then we will probably have to come back again to complete that lesson, unless the murder was planned into the life for the learning experience. All I know is that I was told not to attempt it, because I would not be successful, but that was when I was 24 years old (about 1979). For the rest of my personal life I'm going to treat suicide as a no go. What I do know is that you have to pay for your decisions on this side when you get to the other side and suicide is not a load I would want to carry over to the other side. In essence, it's your call but the action carries consequences.

Was the kind of experience difficult to express in words? Yes     things don't translate from that place to here very well

At the time of this experience, was there an associated life threatening event?          Yes     I underwent open heart surgery. I call it hypothermic surgery. They lower your body core temp to around 90F while your heart and lung functions are stopped. your blood is artificially oxygenated and pumped by a machine during the surgery. I was in this state for over 2 hours. the surgery lasted many more hours than that.

At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness?    as soon as they switched me over to life support.

How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal every day consciousness and alertness?    More consciousness and alertness than normal

If your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience was different from your normal every day consciousness and alertness, please explain:            as soon as they switched me over to life support.

Did your vision differ in any way from your normal, everyday vision (in any aspect, such as clarity, field of vision, colors, brightness, depth perception degree of solidness/transparency of objects, etc.)?  Yes     as I said, on the other side we exist as energy.

Did your hearing differ in any way from your normal, everyday hearing (in any aspect, such as clarity, ability to recognize source of sound, pitch, loudness, etc.)?
            Yes     things were communicated both telepathically and verbally.

Did you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?     Yes

What emotions did you feel during the experience?            pure peace

Did you pass into or through a tunnel or enclosure?          No      

Did you see a light?           Yes     I went from my body to above my body looking down. this lasted very briefly then I was through a light and talking with my mentor or teacher ( like I said things don't always translate into human speak all that well.

Did you meet or see any other beings?           Yes     My mentor

Did you experience a review of past events in your life?    Yes    

Did you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later?          Yes     I asked as I was leaving , how will I know that what I have been shown is real? I was told to watch. during the next few months I watched the largest collapse of the world monetary system and the election of a black president in the U.S.. two things that were shown to me.

Did you see or visit any beautiful or otherwise distinctive locations, levels or dimensions?           No           

Did you have any sense of altered space or time?   Yes    

Did you have a sense of knowing special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?     Yes     the fate of humankind.

Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure? Yes     I was kept in a kind of waiting room for lack of a better explanation. it's where they keep spirits of people who are not going to cross over but have come to the other side during human operations and such. (open heart surgery etc.)

Did you become aware of future events?       Yes              I am very glad that I was told that I won't be here when the real problems start.

Did you have any psychic, paranormal or other special gifts following the experience you did not have prior to the experience?     No      

Have you shared this experience with others?         No      

Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience?    Yes     the one at the age of 24.

How did you view the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened:            Experience was definitely real    after I woke up from the anesthetic I spoke to my wife and she told me that the doctors couldn't warm my body up after the operation. I immediately told her that was the time that I was deciding whether to come back or not.

Were there one or several parts of the experience especially meaningful or significant to you?   

How do you currently view the reality of your experience:            Experience was definitely real            after I came back from my experience I predicted that the Dow Jones would hit 6500 when it was still above 12000. it finally bottomed out at 6593. My prediction was in July 2008.

Have your relationships changed specifically as a result of your experience?           No      

Have your religious beliefs/practices changed specifically as a result of your experience?            No           

Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?         No      

Is there anything else you would like to add concerning the experience?        I was asked to watch mankind for the remainder of my life. for what purpose I don't know but I do know that I will have to 'report' when I die.

Did the questions asked and information you provided so far accurately and comprehensively describe your experience?         No