Jenny C NDE

EXPERIENCE DESCRIPTION:

FIRST TIME: 

I was about five when it happened, my first NDE.  Of course back in 1953, it wasn't known.  I recall watching the new family on the block move in and saw they had a boy about my age that I wanted to meet.  Mom said no, he was having emotional problems and his mother warned everyone to stay away.  I felt badly for him, so I decided to go meet him anyway, and was confident he would see how nice I am and like me.  I walked up the stone steps in front of his house, and knocked on his door.  When he answered, he screamed "GO AWAY!"  In a furious rage, he proceeded to push me as hard as he could backwards down those stone steps.  I flew through the air and tumbled over and over down the steps, and didn't understand why the steps kept jumping up to hit me in the head.  With each hit, I popped out of my body onto the terraced lawn at my house, looking at what was happening but detached.  In and out I popped, in the end staying on the lawn. 

I could see a woman was rushing out the door two houses down, and I heard her screen door slam shut.  But there was such a nice little breeze blowing, and it was very peaceful.  I hadn't realized how high I had gotten, but I chanced to look down and saw a little girl in a brown dress crumpled on the ground far below and wondered who she was.  The lady kneeled by her and I thought, oh, she will be okay, the lady will help.  It was then that I saw the silvery white chord connecting me to the girl and realized it was me down there.  But I felt like a kite and was very happy where I was.  I flew that way until I felt warmth behind me and turned.  It was the most beautiful sun I had ever seen, golden yellow, with rays all hues of the rainbow emanating out a long way, very surreal.  It seemed to come closer but maybe I was going higher.  The colors surrounded me, so I stretched out to touch the sun.  It was very bright, but I could look straight into it.  The second I touched it I was back in my body, the woman was cradling me and saying I would be okay.  She said she was a nurse who had seen my fall from her house and rushed out the screen door to help, and said it was a very bad fall and that I had stopped breathing, and she'd had to perform artificial respiration on me. 

She talked a mile a minute and seemed very upset.  She carried me home admonishing Mom to take me to the hospital immediately, but Mom called the Doctor instead to come for a home visit.  I told Mom of my flight before he came although he was there within minutes. he checked me out, stating I had a severe concussion, wrote out some medicine for me to take and said that I wasn't to get out of bed for three weeks.  Mom was very upset about the fall but was keenly interested in my time being a kite, and related her own NDE (totally different but with some of the same elements) when she was a teen and had typhoid pneumonia.  She wanted to know what was on the other side of the sun.  She seemed disappointed that I couldn't tell her so I decided that night to relive it in dreams.  The following occurred in the three weeks after my fall. 

I tried every night, until one night (I don't know how long) I had another flight to the beautiful sun, just as real as the first time but this time went through it.  On the other side the colors were very bright, I was on a garden path with many trees and beautiful colorful flowers waiving in the breeze.  A butterfly flew across my path and lit on the flowers,  I heard birds chirping and a bunny hopped across.  I wandered happily along, loving each new sight, until I saw an old man in a pure white long robe. He had long white wavy, almost ringlets, hair and long beard, walking towards me.  I gasped, and wondered how my Father got there before me?  Not my Daddy, but my FATHER.  I was filled with such joy and love and ran to meet him.  We talked for a while, me emotional and he pure love and kindness.  Sometime during the talking, I grew into a young woman, and don't remember what was said or how long it took, but suddenly I began to shrink back to five, sobbing uncontrollably on my knees with hands covering my face, then wrapping my arms around his legs and robe, holding on tight and begging to stay, tears streaming down.  My Father said "not yet, you have work to do." He then bent down and said "remember to be nice to people".  I asked, "and animals too?"  He gently said "yes, and animals too, but especially be nice to people."  Suddenly I returned to myself, gasping for air and with a big headache.

 Perhaps I shouldn't, but I consider these flights to be one NDE not two.  It was absolutely real and not dream-like.  I have never doubted it.  For years afterwards I was able to tell when a relative died before my family knew of it.  I used to have a 'death dream' in which I knew a family member had departed -- and I was never wrong.  But when I was twenty two, this dream happened three days before my Uncle's death.  After he died I felt that my knowing and saying something might have actually caused him to give up.  This did not feel like a gift, it was full of death and sadness.  So I prayed to have it taken away, and the intensity of them more or less left me.  I wasn't afraid to die, but to feel responsible for someone else's death was more than I could bear.  After that I rarely spoke of this knowledge when I became aware.  This NDE has changed me profoundly and totally, and my life is ever evolving because 'be nice to people' has so many facets and possibilities. 

SECOND TIME 

After losing my parents so close together, I was beyond inconsolable and felt like an orphan.  I have never believed in suicide, it is so preventable and not part of the plan I had been given.  I had known I didn't have a choice in this matter from my first NDE.  The entire extended family was devastated with so many leaving this earth within such a short period, it was a really bad summer.  So ties had been severed between us as we each dealt with the losses separately.  I found solace knowing that I would see my parents again in that beautiful realm, all in proper time.  I had taken some time off work, and a couple of years later when I was forty-six I was preparing to return, but decided to play and explore a little more before getting back to the grind.  The last trip was to the ocean, where I picked up some fresh oysters, fully intending to savor every bite.  When I returned, I made a jambalaya, and ate nearly the whole thing!!  As I finished the last bite, I had an odd feeling, and ran to the bathroom.  

I fell over shortly after getting there and could not move, but kept trying to get up to call for help, but was too weak.  I couldn't lift my head off the ground because I kept passing out when I tried.  I was very ill, and my attempts to be heard by others outside my apartment failed.  After a few minutes I tried to get to the phone in the other room, but failed in every attempt.  I knew I would die if I didn't make it.  So I tried one more time and finally made it.  I called 911, and before long the medics arrived.  They hooked me up to machines and took my blood pressure.  And stated they were going to lift me to a sitting position to see what happened.  I told them not to, that my blood pressure couldn't support me if they did that.  But they did it anyway, and said "don't worry, we have you and won't let anything happen."  As predicted I passed out with my head bent forward which cut had off my oxygen.  I felt myself surrender, and it was okay. 

All of a sudden I was sitting in what I perceived to be my front room, confused, and totally surrounded by the blackest black -- perfect black, and totally relaxed.  In front of me I saw my TV, but the shape was different.  It was a perfect rectangle.  It was perfect geometrically and the white on the screen did not cross into the blackness.  Inside was what appeared to be a toga party, 5 or 6 couples enjoying each other's company and chatting happily.  I decided I must have woken myself up in the middle of the night and ended up in the front room and turned on the TV.   I watched this party for a while, and decided it must be a 'B' movie and expected Clash of the Titans or some such movie with giants and odd creatures bursting around the corner of the hallway at the end of the room, and was darned if I was going to spend my time watching it.  I reached down for the remote to change the channel, but to my surprise there was no remote or couch there, in fact there was nothing there.  I felt completely intact, arms, legs, etc and was thinking very clearly, crystalline clarity and my laser sharp vision was perfect and unfiltered by weak eyes and faulty brain connections.  I was determined to change the channel so decided to get up and change it directly on my TV set.  The moment I thought that, I speeded to the set without trying to move.  There was a rush of wind, and sensation of incredible speed.  When I got there, the TV was life sized, the room brilliant, and I was peering in on the party.  I knew at that instant I was dead and totally giddy with anticipation that I would see my parents shortly. 

The room was made of the most beautiful luminescent white marble.  Marble floors, walls, ceiling and columns.  They were perfect geometrically and the light emanating from them was totally contained within each laser sharp line of each feature, it did not cross into the next line or feature diminishing its glory in any way. To the left against the wall was a white marble table with a punch bowl containing the oddest mystical color liquid I have ever seen, and several stemmed glasses of an odd geometric shape.  And In the left corner in front of me was a large green parlor palm.  Each person was holding a glass of the liquid.  And they were wearing clothing made of the same white luminescent quality as the entire room.  These people were beautiful and young, I knew them but not their names.  I was convinced if I could make it to the end of the room and down the hall, it would lead to the realm and I could search for my parents.  My mind was racing, thoughts all mixed together at once.  How does one walk on that gorgeous floor without marring it?  Would it hold my Weight?  What was in the marble that made it so luminescent?  Could I reach the end of the room without being noticed?  Was the palm big enough to hide me?  And what are their names?  I know them, but they are younger versions.  What is that punch made of?  How did it get so colorful and perfectly clear at the same time.  It was glowing outrageously.  I was certain I wasn't putting any of that in my system.  How can you drink out of that glass without spilling all over yourself?  

I stepped  UP to the floor (it held me and I didn't slip) and hid behind the palm, watching.  What if this was a sound stage, I didn't want to interrupt.  Were my parents here as well?  I began to search their faces.  As soon as I did that everyone turned and came over to me, welcoming me by name in a most gracious manner.  They seemed to be filled with genuine joy to see me.  So much for sneaking to the back hallway and so much for avoiding the embarrassment of not remembering their names.  I was offered a glass of their liquid punch and graciously declined, but they were insistent.  Their mouths moved and I heard sound when they talked.  But I knew that every thought I had was heard.  I tried twice to make it to the back of the room, but, smiling they offered me a drink again.  When I declined they encircled me, women on the inside and men on the outer ring (and you guessed it, in two perfect circles).  I knew it was useless to decline, so I agreed to try a sip of the drink without earthly comparison or name -- one which I have come to think of as 'Nuclear.'  I raised the glass slowly, my wonderful hosts gently encouraging me all the while.  As soon as that glass touched my lips I was returned to my body. 

The paramedic was holding me and just laying me back down.  My hand and arm made motions of still trying to lift the glass.  I asked how long he held me upright, he said TWO SECONDS!!!!  I asked are you sure?  He said 'Yes.'  The time line is inconceivable.  But, then I had no sense of time while I was there.  When I reached the ER, the doctors worked feverishly on me, said my body temperature was very low and dropping and my blood pressure almost non-existent.  After several hours I asked the nurse what I had, she said 'I don't know, but it almost took you with it."  After a night in the Coronary Care Unit, the doctor finally had a diagnosis.  It had been anaphylactic shock from the shellfish.  I couldn't ever have any again.  I moped around for a month, convinced that I was losing ground spiritually the longer I lived.  After all my first experience was of the round sun and brilliant colors, love, love, love, peace, happiness, light, My FATHER in long white robes, and had received my life's plan.  Now I had been to a toga party with people I didn't know in knee length togas, my parents had not come to greet me and their was no message to take back.  And I had now been kicked out of the realm twice or had arrived too early.  I went shopping for groceries, and was so excited to find a new sports drink because I had to keep hydrated after the illness.  The color was totally new and luminescent -- at least part of the quality of 'Nuclear'.  I bought as many as I could carry, believing this to be proof of my trip.  I called the 800 number on the back of the bottle, and spoke to a nice gal who confirmed this was a totally new color/flavor and they had opened a test market in our area without advertising it just that day.  It was a surprise.  The luminescence was from the phosphorus in the drink.  I shared my story with her, making her promise not to withdraw the drink, because it was the drink of life.  She kept her promise along with the help of thousands of customers because the flavor is still around today -- eighteen years later.  So at least I had a little message, stay hydrated.  Oh, and everything is perfect there.  Besides the sports drink, I always keep a living palm in the house. 

Having had the privilege of two NDE's, so far apart in life, I've gained a little perspective on the experience.  First of all, no matter what the content of the NDE, it is a real occurrence and not a dream.  Second, they are always there helping us, we are not alone and there is hope.  Third, this is for everyone, not just a privileged few in any specific religion. Fourth, we approach the NDE as humans, not as perfect spirits and can be forgiven our human reactions there.  Fifth, every NDE is specific in its content and totally different from another's NDE.  We seem to get what we need at the time in a way that we can understand at that point in our life, and perhaps get enough to last a life time.  Sixth, we should never blame those already passed for not staying on earth for us.  Instead we should jubilate their new circumstances.  Seventh, we should respect all life, including our own, not imposing our will on others, nor interact in a way that hampers or crowds their energy and life experience, like the brilliant marble was perfectly separated.  I know there will be more than I can glean from these experiences, but that book is yet to be written. 

Please forgive the lengthy accounts.  I flunked 'concise' in English class, and don't seem to be able to contain my life in the little boxes provided.  For me, this was concise.  I did, however, get A's in run on sentences.  Peace, love and light to all who made it through these accounts.

At the time of your experience was there an associated life-threatening event?   Yes  First time, a terrible fall with head injury

Second time, an anaphylactic reaction to shell fish

Was the experience difficult to express in words?  Yes     I have rarely discussed these experiences, it is difficult to talk about, I often stutter when I try to talk about them.  Although I am not a stutterer.  I cannot relate these experiences to time, or describe in great detail when asked in person.  This is my third attempt to share my NDE's with you.  I finally had to write them down separately, edit and re-edit, copy and paste them here.  Even writing them down took many labor intensive hours, but is much better than trying to speak them.

At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness?    Both times in the presence of the light, whichever form it took.

How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal everyday consciousness and alertness?      More consciousness and alertness than normal   My vision was acute and unfiltered.  My thinking was totally clear with heightened awareness.

Please compare your vision during the experience to your everyday vision that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience.   My vision was acute and unfiltered.  Normally, I am myopic with astigmatism -- have been since birth, and now have one cataract left to remove.  Things normally appear to be blurry or wavy.

Please compare your hearing during the experience to your everyday hearing that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience.   It seemed normal as it is now.

Did you see or hear any earthly events that were occurring during a time that your consciousness / awareness was apart from your physical / earthly body?   Yes   During my first NDE, I heard my nurse neighbor's screen door slam and I saw myself lying crumpled on the ground.  During my second NDE I wouldn't look in the direction of the bathroom, there was something scary going on there.  I was totally focused on events in the spiritual world.

What emotions did you feel during the experience?   Awe, joy, elation, peace, comfort, contentment, wonderment, love, concern, deep sorrow, rejection -- during my first NDE. 

Skepticism, a little confusion, elation, comfort, compassion, awe, embarrassment -- during my second NDE.  

Did you pass into or through a tunnel?   Uncertain   During my first NDE, the awesome sun with rainbow rays encompassed me.  Some would/could interpret that as a tunnel effect. 

During my second NDE, the absolute black with the brilliant TV could be construed as a tunnel.

Did you see an unearthly light?   Yes   the brilliant golden yellow sun with rainbow rays and brilliant white robe in my first,

and brilliant marble room and clothing in my second.  Also the blackest black, perfection in black.  I have seen nothing like it on earth.

Did you seem to encounter a mystical being or presence, or hear an unidentifiable voice?   I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin
My first NDE I saw an old man in a pure white long robe. He had long white wavy, almost ringlets, hair and long beard, walking towards me.  I gasped, and wondered how my Father got there before me?  Not my Daddy, but my FATHER. 

My second NDE I saw and experienced a toga party, 5 or 6 couples enjoying each other's company and chatting happily who later greeted me by name and welcomed me with an unearthly colored punch.

Did you encounter or become aware of any beings who previously lived on earth who are described by name in religions (for example: Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc.)?   Uncertain   My Father in my first NDE may have been God.

Did you encounter or become aware of any deceased (or alive) beings?   Yes   In my second NDE I saw 5 or 6 couples enjoying each other's company and chatting happily who later greeted me by name and welcomed me with an unearthly colored punch.  I believe they are seen as guides or guardian spirits.

Did you become aware of past events in your life during your experience?   No  

Did you seem to enter some other, unearthly world?   A clearly mystical or unearthly realm
In my first NDE On the other side the colors were very bright, I was on a garden path with many trees and beautiful colorful flowers waiving in the breeze.  A butterfly flew across my path and lit on the flowers,  I heard birds chirping and a bunny hopped across.  I wandered happily along, loving each new sight. 

In my second NDE The room was made of the most beautiful luminescent white marble.  Marble floors, walls, ceiling and columns.  They were perfect geometrically and the light emanating from them was totally contained within each laser sharp line of each feature, it did not cross into the next line or feature diminishing its glory in any way. To the left against the wall was a white marble table with a punch bowl containing the oddest mystical color liquid I have ever seen, and several stemmed glasses of an odd geometric shape.  And In the left corner in front of me was a large green parlor palm.

Did time seem to speed up or slow down?   Time seemed to go faster or slower than usual
In my second NDE Time must have been incredibly speeded up.  I had no sense of time while there in ether experience, but my second one happened in earthly 'real' time of two seconds.

Did you suddenly seem to understand everything?   No

Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure?   Yes
In my first NDE the boundary was my father who wouldn't let me pass. 

In my second NDE the boundary was the hallway at the end of the room.  I was not allowed to enter it.

Did you come to a border or point of no return?   I came to a barrier that I was not permitted to cross; or was "sent back" against my will
In my first NDE the boundary was my father who wouldn't let me pass. 

In my second NDE the boundary was the hallway at the end of the room.  I was not allowed to enter it.

Did scenes from the future come to you?  No 

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness suggesting that there either is (or is not) continued existence after earthly life (“life after death”)?   Yes   I was already aware that I was dead, and yet I had these wonderful NDE's.  Proof enough for me.  I don't know about you, but if you know you are dead and consciousness continues on, there is life after death as we understand death at this time..  I don't know how long it goes on.  There are many things I cannot answer or simply don't have the answers to.

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness that God or a supreme being either does (or does not) exist?   Yes   I believe I encountered him in my first NDE.

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness that you either did (or did not) exist prior to this lifetime?   Uncertain   my Father in the realm, if not God, may have been from a prior lifetime.

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness that a mystical universal connection or unity/oneness either does (or does not) exist?   Uncertain   I don't understand the question.  The oneness I felt had to do with communication by thought, and cooperation between living light and its surroundings, the respect given as non-invasiveness into another's space.

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness regarding earthly life’s meaning or purpose?   Yes   The knowledge of what was shared by my Father in the first of my two NDE's as we talked and I transformed into a young woman I cannot remember or never knew.

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness regarding earthly life’s difficulties, challenges, or hardships?   Uncertain   The knowledge of what was shared by my Father in the first of my two NDE's as we talked and I transformed into a young woman I cannot remember or never knew.

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness regarding love?   Yes   Love is what both of these experiences were all about.  I could not only feel the love around me, but felt it myself.

During your experience, did you encounter any other specific information / awareness that you have not shared in other questions that is relevant to living our earthly lives?   No  

Did you have a sense of knowing special knowledge or purpose?   Uncertain   The knowledge of what was shared by my Father in the first of my two NDE's as we talked and I transformed into a young woman I cannot remember or never knew. 

But his message to me was to be nice to people.  I took this to be my life plan.

What occurred during your experience included:   Content that was both consistent and not consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience   As a young child, I was somewhat aware of Christian teachings, went to Sunday School.  But I didn't really take an interest or pay much attention to them. 

As an adult, my interest in buildings and beautiful architecture and materials was keen.

How accurately do you remember the experience in comparison to other life events that occurred around the time of the experience?   I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience   These experiences stand out in my memory as outstandingly clear milestones in my development and understanding of the purpose of life, and set me on a career path.

Discuss any changes that might have occurred in your life after your experience:   I began a social services 'career' at five years of age which became my real career later in life.  And since I no longer feared death (only too early a demise), I enjoyed some extreme sports.  What an amazing life this has been.  I believe in honesty, and will not intentionally lie.  And in kindness to all.  As my own health declines, I hope I am forgiven for becoming a little cranky.

My experience directly resulted in:   Large changes in my life

Did you have any changes in your values or beliefs after the experience that occurred as a result of the experience?   Yes   I began a social services 'career' at five years of age which became my real career later in life.  And since I no longer feared death (only too early a demise), I enjoyed some extreme sports.  What an amazing life this has been.  I believe in honesty, and will not intentionally lie.  And in kindness to all.

Do you have any psychic, non-ordinary or other special gifts after your experience that you did not have before the experience?   Yes   I used to have a 'death dream' in which I knew a family member had departed -- and I was never wrong and often knew who was calling before I answered the phone (and that was long before caller id).    

Have you ever shared this experience with others?   Yes  I shared the first with Mom a few minutes after my NDE.  She was concerned about my immediate health, and it prompted her to share her own childhood NDE.