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Bob L's NDE


The light was strong and somewhat unearthly at the end of a long tunnel.  The light was as much love as anything in that it was pervasive. 

My relatives (all deceased) were there, all at their prime in life.  They were dressed (I would say 1940's style which would have been prime years for most).  Relatives I knew of, such as my grandfathers, but never knew in life were there as well as uncles/aunts who passed before I knew them. 

The unconditional love was overwhelming and permeated all of us genuinely and richly.   

There was no element of time and no verbally spoken word.  Both time and verbal communication are of this world not needed in the NDE world.  Everything was open thought communication.  Time is the invention of man in this world, not a part of our core spirit.  All of this was very clear to me in the NDE.  Any question or uncertainty was confirmed/known through non-verbal understanding. 

My deceased father was my main non-verbal communication point, but the full love and support of all my deceased relatives flowed through him to me. 

I could choose to stay in their world or choose to return.  I knew this in the spirit of our non-verbal understanding.  there is no judgment in the NDE.  We are all part of a larger way of thinking, and even those who were destructive in this world are loved and accepted in the NDE world. 

I chose to return here knowing there was unfinished business in this life which we all knew to be important and my choice to return was fully supported with unconditional love from my relatives. 

The experience was deeply moving, a joyous window to the world we have before us, but cannot achieve in this life.

Was the kind of experience difficult to express in words? Yes     Very hard to verbalize the NDE in a manner where others could relate

At the time of this experience, was there an associated life threatening event?          Yes     If I understand the question, I was unconscious 5 days, punctured spleen, brain swelling, back fractures, etc.  I do not know exactly when in the five days I had the NDE experience.

At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness?    Fully alert throughout - 

When your thoughts are fully open in a setting of non-verbal communication there is no opportunity to be less than alert. 

In NDE I knew things I never was conscious of knowing in this life and carried some of that back here with me.

How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal every day consciousness and alertness?    More consciousness and alertness than normal

If your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience was different from your normal every day consciousness and alertness, please explain:            Fully alert throughout - 

When your thoughts are fully open in a setting of non-verbal communication there is no opportunity to be less than alert. 

In NDE I knew things I never was conscious of knowing in this life and carried some of that back here with me.

Did your vision differ in any way from your normal, everyday vision (in any aspect, such as clarity, field of vision, colors, brightness, depth perception degree of solidness/transparency of objects, etc.)?  No      

Did your hearing differ in any way from your normal, everyday hearing (in any aspect, such as clarity, ability to recognize source of sound, pitch, loudness, etc.)?
            Yes     There is no hearing in non-verbal communication - knowing, understanding is universal in the NDE.

Did you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?     Yes

What emotions did you feel during the experience?            UNCONDITIONAL LOVE - I was immersed in unconditional love.  All knowledge, all experience was open and accessible - very enriching.

Did you pass into or through a tunnel or enclosure?          Yes     I visualize it now as a tunnel with tracks and a slight bend to the right with my relatives silhouetted against the light.  That is my "here" world visualization of the NDE.  In actuality, it was far more transitory than that, yet of more substance than that might imply.

Did you see a light?           Yes     Pervasive light as it was pervasive love.

Did you meet or see any other beings?           Yes     Yes - deceased relatives.  Some deceased were those not known to me in this life, but relatives I knew had been here long ago.

Did you experience a review of past events in your life?    No       No review, but complete knowledge, open access to all knowledge.  I knew things I never (in this world) ever knew.  Everything was very clear and without judgment.

Did you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later?          Yes     We have at our feet, a world of unconditional love, unlimited potential and opportunity that our humanness in this setting, prevents us from accepting. This world is difficult and challenging only because of our human limitations. 

I am very sad that I cannot change our human perceptions.  For a year or two I regretted returning here, but knew it was part of my unfinished business to attempt to bring the NDE knowledge and experience into my daily behavior.

Did you see or visit any beautiful or otherwise distinctive locations, levels or dimensions?            Yes     Yes, as a part of an OBE during the five days of unconsciousness I was on the beach in Hawaii, sailing, a free spirit in life without pain and full of the joy of life.  The doctors would ask where I was each day and it was was least 4-5 days before I said I thought I was in a hospital.  I guess drugs are good.

Did you have any sense of altered space or time?   Yes     In the NDE world there is no element of time. 

I remember visualizing a clock and thinking how foolish and primitive it was. 

I had the knowledge open to me that time in this world is a function of our solar setting, not of our spiritual being.  We need restful periods in this world because our energy is consumed by our humanness.

Did you have a sense of knowing special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?     Yes            Whoever wrote this survey has not been through a NDE.  Time is not what we take it to be here - time does not exist, except in this world.  Time quantifies and keeps score which is part of our human response to this world or setting where our spirit resides momentarily.  Quantifying and score keeping is all rather foolish when viewed in another context.

Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure? Yes     Yes, the tunnel was linear - I had no sense there was anything beyond the boundaries of the tunnel to the two sides.  At the ends there was the life I left behind at one end and "heaven" beyond the light.  My relatives were standing at a gateway or threshold with the light behind them. 

These were not "hard" walls or barriers, simply void areas.

Did you become aware of future events?       Yes
            Future and past in a knowing way, but not something that came back with me in specific terms

Did you have any psychic, paranormal or other special gifts following the experience you did not have prior to the experience?     Yes     A certain awareness this is all temporary and at a lower level than we could achieve if we were open to our broader existence.

Have you shared this experience with others?         Yes     I was immediately communicative about what I had experienced, but struggled with the words to express it.  Also I had to take speech lessons to learn how to speak again as my words were slurry and imprecise after the head injuries. 

Therefore, I believe most people reacted to me as if I had not shaken the drugs given to me in the accident and days following. 

Now I am very circumspect as to who I share the experience with.  It is interesting  to have the knowledge of our higher existence and see how our daily lives block out the possibilities we have before us.  The very few NDE people I have spoken with or read about fully grasp what I am saying, but others often seem distracted or bored after 3 minutes . . . but that is the human condition we experience here.  Maybe all that changed at a point in history, but not likely to happen at this time.  I wish I could change it, but reality is reality as we define it at any given time.

Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience?    No      

How did you view the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened:            Experience was definitely real    I was very aware the natural course of things would be to forget or diminish the experience.  It did happen, it is real, the world I experienced is there. 

It may only be in our soul, but it is real and it is meaningful. 

Clearly, at this time, the world is not open to mass consumption of such information

Were there one or several parts of the experience especially meaningful or significant to you?            UNCONDITIONAL LOVE

How do you currently view the reality of your experience:            Experience was definitely real    It is my reality.  I am very much at peace with it.  I would like to share it, but have found that even when comforting someone on their death bed, they grasp the "known world" and are not prepared to embrace the unknown even if it is a harmony of love and acceptance they would value. 

People have no way of grasping something they have not known. 

To put my thoughts in a contemporary moment - how could we have expected the people of Iraq to embrace freedom and democracy when they have not experienced it and have no idea what it represents for them? 

You cannot grasp something that is unknown to you except in the most tentative way.  If your grip is not firm, the belief is untested.

Have your relationships changed specifically as a result of your experience?           Yes     I think I am more loving.  I try to be more sincere in my communication and deeds.   

My daughter is having a baby girl this January and I already know her in my heart.  I know where she is coming from and I recognize the value of her gift to us.  I know this is good.  I love my family with all my heart.

Have your religious beliefs/practices changed specifically as a result of your experience?           
Yes     Somewhat - less participation, mostly because I carry that love and closeness with me daily - I relate less to a place or format where I go to experience "religion."  I carry my comfort and love within.

Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?         No       No - I had major surgery a couple of times since and prepared myself for a reunion with my NDE. 

Didn't happen, but the closeness to my earlier experience was healing in my surgery and recovery time.

Is there anything else you would like to add concerning the experience?        I think this is part of it, don't you? 

I thank you for having the belief and interest to explore this most fascination side of life - help bring love forward into this messy place.

Did the questions asked and information you provided so far accurately and comprehensively describe your experience?         Yes     Mostly - gotta be there (NDE) to truly experience it.  As I noted above, it is next to impossible to meaningfully embrace the unknown.

Are there any other questions we could ask to help you communicate your experience?   Would have to think about that.  How do you put into writing what I struggle to verbalize? 

How do you take an experience far beyond our understanding and ask questions about it?