Karl F Probable NDE

Experience Description

It will be difficult to describe all of what happened to me because it covered a good portion of my life and I will tire from this and explaining this drains me. There was a place of greater light that I wanted to go to, but could not. Two men eventually came in and told me I could not go there unless I came back. There have been books and scriptures that were word for word on these types of experiences. As events unfolded some wanted me to not come back, the two men in white wanted nothing of me but to present me with information to make my own choices.

Background Information:

Gender: Male

Date NDE Occurred: may 1977

NDE Elements:

At the time of your experience, was there an associated life-threatening event? Yes Accident Car accident lost estimated 8 pints blood Clinical death (cessation of breathing or heart function or brain function) Car accident with loss of blood, main trauma loss of large portion of right elbow, head minor trauma, other cuts and punctures and scrapes from exiting car and it rolling on top of me.

How do you consider the content of your experience? Mixed

The experience included: Out of body experience

Did you feel separated from your body? Uncertain No

How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal everyday consciousness and alertness? More consciousness and alertness than normal When I was talking to the two men in white.

At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness? When I was talking to the two men in white.

Were your thoughts speeded up? Incredibly fast

Did time seem to speed up or slow down? Everything seemed to be happening at once; or time stopped or lost all meaning Everything seemed normal for where I was I did see my past very little and my future a lot.

Were your senses more vivid than usual? Incredibly more vivid

Please compare your vision during the experience to your everyday vision that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience. Things were different a more complete understanding of things.

Did you seem to be aware of things going on elsewhere? Yes, and the facts have been checked out

Did you pass into or through a tunnel? No

Did you see any beings in your experience? I actually saw them

Did you encounter or become aware of any deceased (or alive) beings? Yes They spoke to me and others were off at a distance.

The experience included: Light

Did you see, or feel surrounded by, a brilliant light? A light clearly of mystical or other-worldly origin

Did you see an unearthly light? Yes

Did you seem to enter some other, unearthly world? A clearly mystical or unearthly realm this question if in reguards to the spiritual world yes

Did you have a feeling of peace or pleasantness? Relief or calmness

Did you have a feeling of joy? incredible joy

Did you feel a sense of harmony or unity with the universe? I felt united or one with the world

Did you suddenly seem to understand everything? Everything about the universe

The experience included: Life review

Did scenes from your past come back to you? My past flashed before me, out of my control And no, at times I think life would have been much easier if it had not happened but we do not control what happens to us to some extent only our response to it.

The experience included: Vision of the future

Did scenes from the future come to you? Scenes from the world's future Things were shown to me to discourage me coming back and/or as a proof of the knowledge of future events.

The experience included: Boundary

Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure? Uncertain There were places I could not go unless I came back.

Did you come to a border or point of no return? I came to a barrier that I was not permitted to cross; or was sent back against my will

God, Spiritual and Religion:


What was your religion prior to your experience? Moderate Presbyterian

Have your religious practices changed since your experience? Yes No people have to make their own decisions not base them from what I say. I do not believe we can say what is right for me is necessarily right for you. Most truly religious events lead the same direction and therefore lead to Godly events. Unfortunately people want to win and God has already won he has merely created this for our benefit.

What is your religion now? Moderate Mormon

Did you have a change in your values and beliefs because of your experience? Yes No people have to make their own decisions not base them from what I say. I do not believe we can say what is right for me is necessarily right for you. Most truly religious events lead the same direction and therefore lead to Godly events. Unfortunately people want to win and God has already won he has merely created this for our benefit.

The experience included: Presence of unearthly beings

Did you seem to encounter a mystical being or presence, or hear an unidentifiable voice? I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin

Did you see deceased or religious spirits? I actually saw them

Concerning our Earthly lives other than Religion:


During your experience, did you gain special knowledge or information about your purpose? Yes Mostly in regards to my life but did gain an ability to love those I would not expect to had this not happened.

Have your relationships changed specifically because of your experience? Uncertain I am not a different person from when I left and when I came back. Life has definitely been more difficult for me to deal with in some respects and more comforting probably in others. Many times I am grateful for the experience mostly very understanding of why we are left to not remember the spiritual from which we came.

After the NDE:


Was the experience difficult to express in words? Uncertain I do not have the words to respectfully give credit to what happened.

Do you have any psychic, non-ordinary or other special gifts after your experience that you did not have before the experience? Uncertain Depends on what you call psychic as far as some events that were to happen in my future, yes.

Are there one or several parts of your experience that are especially meaningful or significant to you? All of it was deeply significant. I first met my first wife then and she was the only person that I saw and spoke with from my future although it was more feelings that we exchanged than actual words. I spoke to her second husband but did not actually see him directly.

Have you ever shared this experience with others? Yes Little bit less than six years. They were missionaries and my wife. I saw there light, for no better explanation, and in that light I had met them before not them specifically.

Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience? No

What did you believe about the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened? Experience was probably not real Read articles of change from consciousness to unconscious would create hallucinations and explained things that way as time went on I was reliving my life they had shown me.

What do you believe about the reality of your experience now? Experience was definitely real I still see events shown me and know it is real.

At any time in your life, has anything ever reproduced any part of the experience? Uncertain If you mean events that confirm what happened to me, yes. Otherwise, no.